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 Teenage Anarchist auto tune?

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PostSubject: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Sat May 26, 2012 10:07 am

I'm writing an article about auto tune for a zine and am planning on referring to Against Me! using it on White Crosses... Although it sounds pretty obvious to me that it's there, can anybody here confirm that it's definitely on it? I think the clearest example is James' backing vocals on the Teenage Anarchist chorus... but it could be some other kind of effect, I guess?
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Sat May 26, 2012 7:49 pm

I don't know if it's been officially noted anywhere but pretty sure if you tweeted James or Laura, they'd answer your question Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Sun May 27, 2012 7:35 am

Maybe it's not auto tune, maybe they're just getting better at singing?
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Sun May 27, 2012 7:41 am

I'm fairly confident that the lead vocals on the chorus (and the rest of the song) do not have any auto tune on it. There MIGHT be some used on the soprano backup part for the line "teenage anarchist" directly AFTER the chorus, but that's the only spot, and even then it could just sound unique because it's out of the vocal range we're used to or of doubling effects.

Unforunately, I'd have enough experience with the tool to generally recognize it. Also, I agree with the post about about tweeting the band. It's an interesting question. I wouldn't be surprised if Butch used it in interesting places we didn't notice to achieve different effects, instead of as a pitch correction tool.
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Sun May 27, 2012 9:32 am

Various Artists wrote:
Maybe it's not auto tune, maybe they're just getting better at singing?


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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Sun May 27, 2012 10:00 am

White Crosses actually has pieces that seem auto-tuned.
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Mon May 28, 2012 2:05 am

The thing with auto tuners (or pitch shifting) now a days is that many of them are very, very good in the way of correcting out of tune vocals without you hearing it being used.

Even the standard softwares in the later verisions of Cubase etc (popular audio recording program for those who donīt know/cares about recording music themselves) is very good and transparent in the sound.

If Against Me! would use auto tuner and you can hear them using it Iīm pretty sure they choosed to do it because they wanted to. And I think in the example of Teenage Anarchist they do that in the backup vocals on "teenage anarchist" in the 2nd verse.

Another way they couldīve done it is to over dub it (recording it twice and playing the tracks on top of each other, it can give that effect to the sound as well if the tracks are recorded very "tight" to each other.
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Mon May 28, 2012 5:31 am

James sounds like a fucking robot on White Crosses--his vocals were definitely auto-tuned. Tom's probably were too but I haven't listened to the album in a while so I'm not sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Mon May 28, 2012 5:33 am

And that's a shame, too. If you listen to ATEC, James' and Tom's vocals sound so perfect without any (obvious) tweaking.
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PostSubject: Re: Teenage Anarchist auto tune?   Mon May 28, 2012 10:18 am

Lurch wrote:
James sounds like a fucking robot on White Crosses--his vocals were definitely auto-tuned. Tom's probably were too but I haven't listened to the album in a while so I'm not sure.


I aggree and I also think itīs a shame because James sounds so solid without any overdubs and noticable auto tune.
And the way his solid, stable vocals works out together with Toms is so great and genius and itīs such a shame to take that away with the auto tune or over dubs.

Just listen to Tonight Weīre Gonna Give It 35% and the choruses (or is it still choruses when the lyrics are diffirent each time?) and how great the dynamics are between Tom and James vocal lines! Imagine straightening them out with the auto tuner, oh the horror!
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