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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 4:25 pm

oldgospelchoir - thanks for the article, any way you can add the missing page I think it's page 57.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 4:34 pm

Oh man
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 4:36 pm

well we were talking about this board being dead
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:04 pm

Good for him. Or her now, I guess. Proud of her and I will punch anyone who is a dick about it.
I am kind of sad, which I guess is silly. But like, we're losing Tom Gabel, in a sense. It's a big change to wrap my head around I guess, but whatever. Let's be supportive.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:06 pm

I feel bad for his daughter, in a way.

I can't imagine the amount of **** a person would good growing up with a relatively famous transsexual father.

I support him/her, that sounds rude to say, him / her. I guess we should just say her.

I support her, I'm just so blown away.

Wow is the only word.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:08 pm

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Being gay I get. Being Transgender is fucking weird. I love you Tom but wow.


I registered just to respond to this. It's despicable that you treat it this way. To say "being transgender is fucking weird" is nothing short of xenophobic. You talk as though you will have to come to grips with just tolerating the issue. Totally uncool.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:12 pm

Is her name going to be Laura?

That was some song referencing you guys
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:13 pm

I disagree completely, all he said was it was weird.

Knowing someone for 15 years, and then reading something so utterly unexpected is weird.

Give wheover said that time to liek take it in. We are on this board because we eat, sleep, and breathe Against Me!, and now AM! is very clearly RADICALLY changing.

This is a weird experience.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:13 pm

He's going to go as Laura Jane Grace
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:15 pm

weird may have been a poor choice of words. To most people transgender is confusing and incredibly unfamiliar. Maybe having someone like Tom Gabel can help them understand it better
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:16 pm

Yeah weird might not have been the best choice...

unexpected and confusing would've been better
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:21 pm

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I disagree completely, all he said was it was weird.

Knowing someone for 15 years, and then reading something so utterly unexpected is weird.

Give wheover said that time to liek take it in. We are on this board because we eat, sleep, and breathe Against Me!, and now AM! is very clearly RADICALLY changing.

This is a weird experience.


We can talk semantics and I'm not going to put words in anyone's mouths, but you're rationalizing what he said. If you eat, sleep, breathe Against Me, then I'd imagine you respect them, at least to some degree, as individuals. There's nothing harmful about what he's doing and it's not going to affect that poster or any of AM!'s fans. It's physiologically who Tom Gabel is. It is surprising no doubt, but that poster said "Being transgender is fucking weird," not "this news is weird/shocking" or whatever. If it just comes down to a flub of language, then fine, but it was a bullshit comment as is.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:25 pm

I'm disappointed in how some of you are reacting. The gender binary is a social construct, and everyone should be supportive of Tom's decision.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:27 pm

gender isn't binary, but sex is. I don't think anyone has reacted truly negatively.
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PostSubject: Re: new May 2012 interview on Rolling Stone Magazine.   Tue May 08, 2012 5:27 pm

pookieray wrote:
oldgospelchoir - thanks for the article, any way you can add the missing page I think it's page 57.


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